Saturday, August 10, 2013

Conversion Between Baptists and Orthodox; Which is Correct?


Conversion Between Baptists and Orthodox; Which is Correct?

 

“To understand these patterns better, it is important to know that in traditional Orthodox countries there is a large majority of nominal Orthodox.  They come to church services once or twice a year and almost never participate in the Church sacraments.  Most conversions away from the Orthodox Church happen from this class of people.”

“As a Romanian Baptist, I knew that the Orthodox practice a Christian faith “corrupted” by un-biblical human traditions.  I do remember that once a Baptist minister, who was well educated, told me that the Orthodox theology is much more profound and rich than ours.  My own pastor in Bucharest complained that while the Orthodox have a rich theology of the Church, ours was very weak and limited.  Coming in contact with some Orthodox books in 1999, I perceived a paradox: I could not understand why Orthodoxy is so corrupted and at the same time holds such a treasure of profound spirituality.  Trying to resolve this paradox I ended up by converting to Orthodox faith.”

“It is easy to perceive an asymmetry between the two directions of conversion.  In most cases, the Orthodox to Evangelical convert is one who was a nominal Christian and knew very little about the church in which he formally belonged, and through some friend has an encounter with an Evangelical service, where he has an emotional experience.  He discovers friendship and love and a sense of community which were previously lacking in his life.”

“The typical Evangelical to Orthodox convert is a knowledgeable and theologically literate Christian who searches for truth and the right Christian practice.  He discovers the Orthodox faith, but is first stopped by all the accusations which he had heard in his own church.  In Romania, the Evangelicals often define themselves in opposition to the Orthodox.  “Unlike the Orthodox,” they say, “we do not believe in…” After a careful study of the issues, he finds out that the accusations are either false or superficial.  Moreover, he discovers a huge body of tradition, practice and theology, which stands as an answer to his or her many old questions.”

Within the above lies the crux of the problem.

Honest appraisal reveals that there are many nominal or sleeping people among both Protestants (Evangelicals, often specifically Baptists) and Orthodox.  These people should not be deceived into believing that they are Christians.  Christianity is about sincerely trying to follow Jesus, and actually achieving that as the gift of God’s marvelous grace.  Failure to follow Jesus as demonstrated in a lax, nominal lifestyle puts the sincerity of one’s confession in question.  Equally heinous is the fault or replacing Jesus with the idolatry of emotionalism, excitement, and sensationalism.  This idol exists in both Protestants and Orthodox churches as well.

Honest appraisal shows that in both cases, that is in either direction, the individual grew closer to Christ in the conversion.  Baptists showed the nominal, something precious about Jesus.  Orthodoxy showed Baptists, something equally precious about Jesus.

Common sense might indicate that our true brothers and sisters in Christ are those who are sincerely following Jesus by faith in His precious name, whether they are known as Orthodox, Protestants, or Romanists.  See Matthew 12:46-50 and Luke 8:18-21.  Those who are asleep in the pews or are overcome with idolatrous excitement and superstition are not our true brothers and sisters in Christ.

Honest appraisal realizes that many Baptist churches have a rich heritage of the Liturgy of the Word, but almost no Liturgy of Communion.  Many Orthodox churches have a rich heritage of the Liturgy of Communion, but almost no Liturgy of the Word.  Roman churches have their faults as well.  As a result the bulk of the laity are dying of starvation.  Few of the laity realize that they have a responsibility to awaken the sleeping and suppress the idolatrous among them.

This is not to overlook the fact that we are also failing to address the hateful masses seeking to destroy us both, and need to hear that Jesus died and raised again.  That as hateful as they are, Jesus loves them, He died to give them life, and He raised to give them a home.

When we fully realize the impact of these facts, we will see the need to come together sincerely as One in Christ, not by compromise, but by seeking the Truth together.  Throughout this reply, I have assiduously avoided the use of the word Catholic, simply because we will not be truly Catholic until we (all the sincere Orthodox, Protestants, and Romanists) come together as One in Christ.  Then and only then will we be effective in changing our fallen world to the obedience of Christ.  We must stop taking sides and figure out how to come together.

Which is Correct?  Both and Neither.

How to Face Commitment


How to Face Commitment

 
Know that all truth begins with and comes from God.  With that assurance be committed to being a lifelong learner.  Then, honestly embrace the fact that we see things in "a mirror dimly." and since we never see clearly, be ready to fearlessly say, "I was wrong."

In this context "sin boldly."  "Iron sharpens iron."  Butter doesn't sharpen anything.  Only in the spirit of earnest and sincere peer review is it possible to sharpen convictions.  Yes, we have convictions and hold to them tenaciously; but in honesty we realize that our convictions fall short of God's Truth.  We know that Jesus is that Truth, but our service to Him can always be better.  There is always a new Higgs particle to look for.  There is always room for improvement.

On the other hand, the same things are true of those who hold the opposite opinion.  Much of the time we fail to listen honestly, and we miss being sharpened by another because of spiritual deafness.

In this respect, theologians are often incredible liars: in the heat of conviction and debate they stop listening to what the other fellow is saying, focus on winning rather than learning, and produce schism rather than unity, heresy rather than growth, disaster rather than healing.  The phenomenon known as the “We-They Siege Mentality” lurks everywhere.

Nevertheless, we don’t have to put up with an endless barrage of inane senselessness.  Instead, find and be committed to close friends who think outside of the box; then we will challenge their ideas faithfully, being willing to be challenged in return.  Make friends with the “other side” if it’s open to debate.  We cannot undo the wreckage of the Reformation if we’re unwilling to have and love both Lutheran and Roman brothers-sisters.  We have to respect each other, we have to put away the weapons, and we have to talk.  The same thing is true of Orthodox and Western relations.

Also, we need to focus on key issues.  It’s too easy to get caught up in trivia.  The top two or three issues is where we need to be most active.  When our worthy opponent says, “Who cares?  You’re nit-picking.” Maybe that’s a clue that were off focus.  Hitting the nail on the head makes all the difference.

Finally, this all adds up to one big idea.  We should be listening far more than we should be talking.  The person we should be listening to, most of all, is God.